Comments - Subaru BRZ STI to Pack 280 HP

Published: Oct 22, 2012
Description: Despite consistently denying that such an official project is in the works, a turbocharged version of Subaru's BRZ sportscar will likely be ready for production by the 2014 model year. According ...
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Sam Saechao Oct 24, 2012
@ dirk. You must not realize what you posted. Amg is for Mercedes which you brought up and thought someone else was confusing it for tmg which does exist for Toyota. Tmg is present in Germany. Lets not try to change the subject boy
Jared Palmer Oct 23, 2012
Toyota is ousting the TRD designation due to unwanted criticism, 'turd'. They are suppose to be changing to the TMG (Toyota Motorsports Group) by 2014 not to be confused with the TMg R&D as they are separate entities.
Antonio Falsetti Oct 23, 2012
Finally some respectable hp numbers.
Kyle Rawn Oct 23, 2012
Haha this guy is easy to make angry. Just trolling, and I got you sir.
Dirk Austin Greer Oct 23, 2012
Oh and while you're at it maybe YOU should research TMG. Because you are obviously confused. The original comment was referring to TRD and stating they they are not Toyota's real racing dept. why don't you look THAT up.
Dirk Austin Greer Oct 23, 2012
@Kyle, a newbie? So you don't know what TRD is either then? And obviously you didn't read the article or comment. I'm fully aware what TMG is. It's Toyota Motorsport GmbH and they are a testing and development site. They are not TRD. But good one
Kyle Rawn Oct 22, 2012
@ Dirk. Oh boy, looks like we got another newbie here. Coming from a Toyota guy, Sam is right. Don't believe us? Google "tmg Toyota" literally takes 30 seconds to research.
Dirk Austin Greer Oct 22, 2012
@sam, so it's Sam? Not nick? Oh wait, that's right it's not. Maybe read the actual comment before opening your mouth. TRD is the parts & RACING department of Toyota. TRD is to Toyota, what AMG is to Merc. TMG is an R&D facility. Thanks though.
Devin Babyn Oct 22, 2012
Finally they'll make it up to specs I'll respect. Wish it was the FRS though can't stand this front end
Benjamin Levin-O'Leary Oct 22, 2012
Can't wait for this. There's one on my block. Sounds amazing.
Sam Saechao Oct 22, 2012
@dirk Please do research before posting. Tmg is Toyota Motorsports GmbH. Amg is for Mercedes LOL!
Brady Fereday Oct 22, 2012
Muni this car weighs nothing though this is going to haul ass
Muni Singh Bahra Oct 22, 2012
Why buy brz or gt86 when u can get so much more out of other coupe cars, this doesnt have enough bhp for starters being a scooby, ///M Power baby :)
Dirk Austin Greer Oct 22, 2012
@Nick, I think you're a little confused. TRD= TOYOTA Racing Development. And they supply performance parts for toyota's and Scion's. Lexus has their own F-division. TRD also does Toyota's racing. TMG? Germany? You must be thinking of AMG. lol.
Joshua Minh Tran Oct 22, 2012
If Subaru releases this I'm sure Toyota would do something similar, they well not just sit idly by.
Nick Schnee Oct 22, 2012
TRD just makes cosmetic mods on random Lexuses, as far as I know, Toyota's real racing division is TMG, even though it's mostly Germany-centered.
Puneet Dass Oct 22, 2012
I thought Gazoo was a racing division of Toyota much like TRD? Correct me if I'm wrong please
Stephen Tyler Learn Oct 22, 2012
The gazoo car also made enough power to blow apart the stock transmission which is a problem that they haven't addressed yet
William Downs Oct 22, 2012
@puneet the gazing racing gt-86 wasn't built by Toyota, gazing racing is a team sponsored by Toyota and the car they made was twin charged not just turbo, and was a stripped out race car
Daniel Eads Oct 22, 2012
I would be sweet if they take off some weight too, or at least keep it the same.
Puneet Dass Oct 22, 2012
Toyota has also made a concept turbo version called the Gazoo version. Don't know what's stopping them from releasing it as a factory model now after this news
Brady Fereday Oct 22, 2012
Finally now I'm happy
Bruce-Almighty Tumblin Oct 22, 2012
Yea, bout time, "MORE POWER"; should be really nice!
Michael Riley Oct 22, 2012
ain't that just a slap in the face lol go Subaru!! xD
Michael Davidson Oct 24, 2012
I'm glad it's not awd. Rwd is much more fun.
Antonio Falsetti Oct 23, 2012
I hope it comes from the factory with those wheels and that spoiler.
Lead Peddalin Oct 23, 2012
I wish it was AWD.
Lou Guerrero Oct 22, 2012
Surprised there's no ubiquitous STI scoop.
David Hicks Oct 22, 2012
Toyota, umadbrah?
Nissan GTR Oct 22, 2012
I'm getting this car :)
Shelby Cassandra Oct 22, 2012
Wonder how much the markup will be for these. I believe I seen a bottom of the line model for 33k at a dealer. A markup of the same caliber would put this at like 50k.
John Serely Oct 22, 2012
These are so good looking! The wing fits the car too
Chad Schley Oct 22, 2012
John they look like some kind of 4 piston calipers to me.
John M Weishahn Oct 22, 2012
They should upgrade the brakes to handle that new power. You'd think they'd at least do that for the show car.
Victor Pitts Oct 22, 2012
I can't get over how good these cars look.
Kai Smith Oct 22, 2012
They finally made the BRZ look way better and more horse power! This is definitely gonna be my first coupe!
Frederick Perez Oct 22, 2012
Way better looking than Scion/Toyota version.
Paul Dickey Oct 22, 2012
First time I looked at this car and liked it.
William Downs Oct 22, 2012
That's what I'm talking about
Description: The turbo BRZ could benefit from a single twin-scroll turbocharger and direct injection to augment its horizontally-opposed 2.0-liter engine. This mechanical setup would contrast with the DI/port-...
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Dan Seehagel Oct 23, 2012
Awd makes handling better?? Because a Lamborghini handles well then it must be true. By that logic all f1 cars should be Awd. The systems you speak of are costly and heavy both of which are the exact opposite of the entire concept of the 86.buy a wrx
Miguel Jimenez Oct 23, 2012
A turbo by it's self is already going to make the front end heavier.
Miguel Jimenez Oct 23, 2012
@Davin Lamborghinis are mid engine so AWD doesn't make the the front end that heavy but since the BRZ is front engine it would have a huge front biased. AWD defeats the purpose of this car it's supposed to be light, nimble, and agile.
Terrance Parker Oct 22, 2012
As I said before people you can dream in one hand and you can poo in the other, see which hand fills quicker. I like rumors, but I LOVE facts!!!!
David Parenti Oct 22, 2012
If you want to drift corners all day then by all means RWD only. But if you want to pull out of corners and off the line then you can't beat AWD. Especially in something this light. I love RWD cars but IMO this car should be offered in AWD option.
David Parenti Oct 22, 2012
Anyone who thinks this car wouldn't be cool AWD is nuts. Sure it would change how the car handles, it would handle better... I'm sure you think an AWD Lamborghini is dumb too because it handles different. It also gets from 0-60 faster.
Shelby Cassandra Oct 22, 2012
@Daniel. He said cayman r or s. which are very close to 70k.
Daniel Eads Oct 22, 2012
Shelby, he may be on crack but I don't know what you're smoking. A cayman starts out around 53k. You are right though, the whole point of buying a Subaru is to have the performance without the price tag.
Shelby Cassandra Oct 22, 2012
@Chase. Are you on crack? The cayman costs around 70k base price. Add tax and dealer markups it is probably close to an 80k car. That would be a terrible business decision on Subaru's part. It would have to be VERY fast to reach that price range.
Chase Huddles Oct 22, 2012
That all great, but do you know what I really want to see? A model that just straight up goes for the Cayman S/R. This is along the lines of a Mustang GT/370 Z and I'm sure they'll do fine against them, but with all those dynamic bench marks they had against the Cayman, I just want to see version with around 300-350 horsepower and more serious hardware.
Colby Church Oct 22, 2012
@Corey There's no way a car lower class than the 370 is going to give the BRZ STI a run for its money. It has almost the same power as a 370 with a lot less weight. It's gonna be quick dude. Probably 5 second 0-60.
Justin Routh Oct 22, 2012
@carlos 5.0 will be cheaper, have more power, and that wonderful V8 sound. Its not gonna handle like the brz though
Darren Nardo Oct 22, 2012
I am a muscle car guy but if they make a BRZ STI it will sell very well and be crazy fun to drive! Lets see what they do with pricing ?? Hope this becomes a reality!
Terrance Parker Oct 22, 2012
Here these rumors often, seen this same car at the 2010 LA Auto Show. I'll believe when I see it.
Andrew Palmer Oct 22, 2012
This is cool...I'd be doen
Joshua Minh Tran Oct 22, 2012
@Aaron depends on what you're looking for. If you don't want to get your hands dirty, have power right out of the box then Brz. If you want serious power, like to work on your car, and drive a higher class vehicle then 370z.
Shelby Cassandra Oct 22, 2012
@Carlos. This will be much more expensive than the 5.0.
John Serely Oct 22, 2012
Finally. This is good
Carlos Eduardo Gaviria Oct 22, 2012
Should I buy a 2013 5.0 now or should I just wait for this
Victor Pitts Oct 22, 2012
I hate iPhones solely on auto-correct reasons
Victor Pitts Oct 22, 2012
I was pretty close to flaming the AWD comment by David down there, BUT, you all forget about a little car called the Subaru Impreza RS back I the day? The last AWD COUPE by Subie! They should offer the AWD package, but I love this car as RWD.
Zaire Wilkins Oct 22, 2012
i perfer V6's and up
Matt Sutton Oct 22, 2012
Maybe some do not like the looks of the wrx sti. Im not a fan. But its still a great car. Having options never hurts.
Adam Solomon Oct 22, 2012
If you want a BRZ with awd then you could take the transfer case from a wrx and then buy the rest of the wrx and shut up about an awd BRZ.
Corey Mullis Oct 22, 2012
the new down market 280z resurrection is going to be quite the competition for this thing. and we should be seeing signs of it around the time this turbo grade comes out
gunter Oct 22, 2012
i reckon it will have a top speed of 165 mph
Puneet Dass Oct 22, 2012
For people wishing this was awd, you have the wrx Sti for that. Rwd with a bit of power = lots more fun.
Brady Fereday Oct 22, 2012
And sadly I bet pricing with mark ups and all will be close to 40
Brady Fereday Oct 22, 2012
370z or this for me I will never get a Hyundai
Bruce-Almighty Tumblin Oct 22, 2012
@Aaron, bout 2800 pounds & 280hp; the BRZ STI hands down.
Bruce-Almighty Tumblin Oct 22, 2012
@David, what the point of making it AWD when they already a WRX & STI? This way they are diverse in the cars that their offering, you should think before you hit the "post" button dude!
Aaron Crisp Oct 22, 2012
Genesis, 370z or this? Gonna be hard!
Matt Sutton Oct 22, 2012
Awd would have sealed the deal. Anyone have any idea on pricing? Hope its competitive. I can get a gen coupe with almost 70 more hp. But maybe power to weight ratio makes up for it.
William Downs Oct 22, 2012
Cause r&d* And adding awd would be stupid and pointless plus ruin the cars handling characteristics
William Downs Oct 22, 2012
I think Subaru had this plan all along, no way Subaru is gonna have a performance car without a turbo, that's there money maker, think they used Toyota to help develop a rwd platform. They could build on, case r& cost alot of money
David Parenti Oct 22, 2012
Just couldn't make it AWD could you....
gunter Oct 22, 2012
it looks good and its about time they added more power. i think there brains switched on at subaru !
Serge Pankratov Oct 23, 2012
I think this front end is just beautiful.. But i agreed on a hood scoop.. Make one that looks like the scoop on a 98 Subie GT :) or aomething along those lines
Alex Klemstein Oct 22, 2012
Concave hood scoops/vents would be best. A wrx sti esq hood scoop wouldn't fit this car's esthetics.
William Downs Oct 22, 2012
Yea I would love to see a nice subtle hood scoop, not huge but I agree it needs something
Matt Piccolo Oct 22, 2012
Needs a (functional) hood scoop
Brady Fereday Oct 22, 2012
Ya it's not much of an STI hood that's for sure lol
Paul Dickey Oct 22, 2012
Good vents would be cool. The good is just too plain for me.
William Downs Oct 22, 2012
It's such a great looking car
Antonio Falsetti Oct 23, 2012
The spoiler might be a tad too big for the street but you gotta love the down force it makes for the track.
Serge Pankratov Oct 23, 2012
Wow perfect rear end imo
Vince Cassi Oct 22, 2012
This is the LA auto show concept. This came out before the production car, so the taillights will likely look like the current model.
Devin Babyn Oct 22, 2012
I like it, reminds me of the one on the R34
Miguel Jimenez Oct 22, 2012
@Josh No, probably East Los Angeles or The Bay Area...
Siya Fadane Oct 22, 2012
Wing is disgusting. Take it off and let the "rice-" put it on them selves
Trent Turner Oct 22, 2012
Already finished here in Australia and looks nothing like that but it didn't look like a turbo
Tanton Stoneman Oct 22, 2012
Thanks for fixing the rear Subaru!
Zachary Maurer Oct 22, 2012
@josh, no. Detroit, maybe
Josh Kucy Oct 22, 2012
It would look gangster? What are we living in 1999?
Daniel Eads Oct 22, 2012
Puneet, it's got to have a wing because it's a STI. Although I do think the wing off the impreza would look better.
Puneet Dass Oct 22, 2012
Take the wing off and this will look gangster
William Downs Oct 22, 2012
The sti wing would look great, maybe not as tall as the impreza's but same design
Matt Piccolo Oct 22, 2012
I don't like the wing either... Needs to be more like the one on the impreza's
Stephen Tyler Learn Oct 22, 2012
@ning it's the same damn car
Ning Lewis Oct 22, 2012
Why the hell is the GT86, only in Asia and Europe, and America get the crappy FRS >_>
Zaire Wilkins Oct 22, 2012
only if it look like this in the first place
Bruce-Almighty Tumblin Oct 22, 2012
Im not a big fan of that huge wing!
William Downs Oct 22, 2012
These are the taillights that should have been on it from the beginning and I hope there smart an change the current ones
Adrian Gaastra Oct 22, 2012
Those taillights are so much better.
Serge Pankratov Oct 23, 2012
The side mirror looks tiny!
Siya Fadane Oct 22, 2012
Gold rims would have been a tribute. But im guessing tributes are only for the fallen
Rohil Chauhan Oct 22, 2012
Pretty certain this is longer than the base model.
Aaron Crisp Oct 22, 2012
I'm thinking in 370z and Genesis V6 territory.
Nick Grubecki Oct 22, 2012
Whats the price range going to be?