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amen, the agera is better in every sense of the word. im not hating on the veyron but when you compare every aspect of what each car brings to the table it isn't even a comparison. the car that is closest to the agera in all around perfection is the huayra in my opinion
Lmfao they will never make it as nice as an agera lol even the Hennessy venom gt looks 10,000 times better man and losses less at the crank
I've seen an Agera R and a Veyron Vitesse within 50 yards of each other and nothing has the presence of an Agera
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Besides an Atom will destroy most cars on a track but I wouldn't want it as a daily driver. A veyron now can do all and in comfort. If it lost some of the weight and became more track orientated you'd still find something to fault.
@william not wanting to state the obvious but don't most tracks have straights before corners! Lmao. The top gear track isn't that big either as a formula 1 car can do it under 1 min. Check out tiff needells review a racer. Fact over opinion.
Pablo go take another look. Its a straight away to a sweeping left hand turn, another straight into a right open turn, another straight into the chicane from there onto another straight witch leads to another sweeping right hand turn straight to a left turn onto another straight and then two small left hand turns, that's far from a tight yea , that's about 6 straights for the Veyron to open up
You're right, that was dumb. But back to the point that the veyron wasn't built for handling..
@Jacob, Lmfao your really gonna use top gear times to compare times, do u forget that that track has about 6 straight in it, no shit it has a faster time dumb ass, put it on a track without all them straights and it won't beat any of them cars or even come close, if your gonna use top gear as the base for your arguments then u might as well just delete this app
Excuse me though, I said if you want handling read about the gumpert Apollo, that was incorrect as the veyron SS has a faster top gear track time than the gumpert, and in fact a faster time than the CCX. Only .1 secs shy of the aventador too.
You do NOT need handling, you need great suspension and stability, which the Veyron has both, but there is no turning capabilities required to top out.
@Jacob. You need handling for going 260+ mph. Would you get in a Civic with that much power and try to top it out?
Ben, why would a car who's soul aim is top speed be made to handle? That's just not what it's built to do! If you want handling go read about the Gumpert Apollo or something.
Bye-bye venom gt and agera! As much as I don't like this car, those numbers are unreal
For your Information 10 mph is a lot considering the Air resistence at nearly 300mph
I'll pay attention once they announce it officially. I dunno, maybe because I've been watching NRE 2000hp twin turbo big blocks all afternoon but this just doesn't blow me away
you can't test on 5 miles worth of flat grade Tarmac anywhere in the world
ok so they'll cut, what another 200 lbs, and manage another 10 mph top speed..whoop di frickin doo! the ONLY reason there are 3 other cars above the SS is because they won't allow anyone to use the VW track..
8 turbochargers, 15 radiators, 4 hyperdrive capacitors!!!! 26,000 horsepowaaaah!!!!
so many rumours fly around in the car industry, rarely true. however if we see a lighter veyron approaching 290mph that would be one if the most exciting things ever! lets hope the lightness means genuine improvements on the track too. :)
Agreed, the large engine gives more room for more improvements in tge future
The Mclaren is in no comparison to even the old Bugatti. And yes I agree, we have seen a huge jump in go over the last 10 years! Btw Bugatti still has a lot of room even after 1600hp
Looks like Bugatti is not going to give up to to a car made by a 20yearold company, I like the competition going on
So at this rate within the next 5 years we should be seeing 2000 bhp cars for the world records. Insanity
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The tires will barely last to set the record! Looking forward to seeing a top gear episode on this
Not a big fan of the veyron, but I do think what it does is amazing, even tho it can't handle. Id take the R8
@Justin, never heard of the agera, does it with half the cylinders, half the turbos, 2wd and doesn't look like an over grown beetle, plus it can tackle a track at race pace
Some one please explain to me a car that can come close to the speeds that a Bugatti can pull out in only a short time that can do it right out of the store.... I love lambos as much as the next guy but no car can do what a Bugatti can, so shut up
Does it even matter if it's slightly faster or slower here or there? We love cars not to get there quicker but to enjoy the driving, the look, the sound. I don't like the Bugatti very much but I can understand why a lot of people do. For me? A 458!
The Bugatti is not only not capable at track it is astonishingly horrible at it. If not then explain how a Lamborghini Aventador can beat it around a track with less hp, less torque, worse 0-60 time, worse 0-100 time, and a lower top speed? The only explanation is bad handling and braking. Please someone answer this question with facts I'm dying to hear the answer.
From what Ive seen Bugatti handles better than the Koenigsegg. Go watch some fifth gear. And I actually got my information from a man who has worked for Lamborghini for 20 years, and driven both car countless times, but I guess you probably know more
Never said I've driven one, I'm going of of reviews and articles not pulling shutout my ass, no the Veyron is not a capable car around a track, just cause it can get around a track dosntnmean it can handle a track, and the top gear track has 1 section with a tight turn, and the other isn't to bad of a turn,the rest aare just wide long sweeping turns, they have driven big trucks and everything arou...
@William, are you saying you've driven both the Veyron and the Agera?
@William. You dont know what your talking about. The Veyron is a very capable track car. Cant believe im saying this but, go watch Top Gear. It isnt just built for straight line performance. Even though it shines in that category.
@Jacob ever been in an average I think not don't talk shit about what u don't know koeingsegg have great ride quality, and are comfortable cars , plus there fast both in a straight line and threw turns, this is just huge and only good in straight lines, average is sleek aggressive and not to mention doesn't need a giant engine and 4wd to put its power down, average is a real performance car with g...
Get over t the only reason the Bugatti has the title is cause they have the only track u can reach those speeds at, records set on a private track shouldnt count cause now that they beat the record they can just refuse anyone using there track so they keep the record by default, and don't actually earn it cause there scarred there giant beached whale isn't as great as they think
Half of the greatness of Bugatti is the ride quality. It drives like a Rolls-Royce with supercar speeds! Though it is an acquired taste (which I find gorgeous), I'd rather drive in luxury than have a jackhammer up my butt all day like in the Agera.
Maynor, you're telling Colby not to be a hater when you are hating on his car....seems legit
I would still take an Agera R anway. 4 seconds to 200 mph quicker than the current super sport
There will probably never be any production car to ever beat any Bugatti, there are no cars really even close and the way it looks Bugatti is going even faster, and it doesn't matter if it can't turn, Bugatti is going to be know as the fastest car.
Maynor, stop telling the "haters" to stop hating. Colby has one badass car. The Veyron does deserve respect but you're going fanboy over it.
All haters stop hating even you colby the veyron is better than the car you have
Bugatti just except your gonna be second.. The agera R is better and just beautiful and your ugly I'm sorry..
Pretty cool- got to give respect to VW that they aren't content to One and Done it with this model. Keep it going B! They may just establish a performance dynasty
How is ther so much specfic info on a carthat VW hasnt ecen talked about
Why not call it the HyperSport? I mean they already have a super veyron haha
I believe tire compounds are about the only thing stopping anyone getting much higher than the record. If any company can do it, it would be VW AG
Haters keep hating! Those numbers are pretty insane (once they prove it). This car will be a beast!
@Spencer Gallardos are tiny. This thing is wider than a Land Rover, wouldn't exactly call that "small"
I didn't say light, I said small. Put one next to a Gallardo and you'll understand what I'm saying.
Pictures really don't do this car justice. It's so much more impressive when you realize how small it is
May I just point out in defends of the Veyron that the Corvette has a 7 litre V8 with around 440hp... The Dodge Viper, an 8.4 litre V10, 640hp... The Veyron has been reliably producing 3000hp, most of which is lost to the 10 radiators and ensuring
that the car is reliable, as well as protecting the gearbox... I doubt your Ranger is as reliable as the Veyron. They tested it and it was more reliable than a Golf. I understand arguments against it, but it's unfair to say it sucks. That's wrong.
And a 0-300mph, which the veyron can't even hit, and a 0-300-0. In 20.1 seconds. Beat that Getmans! Ford all the way!
My Grandmas Crown Vic has a faster 0-200mph than this useless thing! And a 0-100, and a 0-200-0.
Lol, petty street legal cars. They don't know the definition of speed, torque, handling, etc.
Shelby, I freaking love you. Please post here more often for numskull Bugatti lovers for that one day they may see the light.
Apparently u don't under stand what an opinion is, him along with a lot of us don't find the beached whale to nice looking, 1000+ HP from a w16 with 4 turbos, isn't even that impressive considering there are cars making the same numbers with half the cylinders, half the turbos and only using 2wd, this is just a really expensive status symbol, that's why vs won't let no one use the track, cause wit...
You guys must be new here since from what I've seen on here most people hate the Veyron
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I think Bugatti was experimenting with ways to make their cars uglier for the future.
I respect the Veyron line, but I'd prefer to have the MP4-12C that hits 'just' 200 mph, but kills everything else around corners.
the veyron's w16 deserves respect because it allows the car to produce over 1k hp with the refinement and smoothness that a twin turbo supra or whatever lacks. reviewers always say how smoothly it rockets to triple digits
I'll tell if the Veyron was more track oreinted and lighter, there would be nothing to compete with.
there are many reliablilty issues! why do you think Bugatti has refused to ever send their car around the nurburgring, besides the fact that it would get slaughtered because of it's inability to turn. the engineer himself said that the veyron would not be able to go one lap around the nurbrgring because the car could not withstand it. look it up, now that's a bit of an issue i would say.
William last time I checked there was no reported reliability issues
@william.. Idk but I think I remember the veyron doing quite well on the track..
Please new enzo replacement and the p1 are not worryed about some fat overweight pig that can only do straight lines, Bugatti is nothing but a status symbol. They can't make big power without using a giant truck engine with alit of turbos, anyone can make over 1000hp with a big enough engine, real performance would be more power from a smaller engine with better reliability
I swear to god if it looks the same but with a different paint job I will face palm so hard.
@ Ian . There is a saying if you need to ask the price you cannot afford it. People with bugattis often have jets and yachts which are far more expensive to maintain. The 20k for tyres is tax deductible -company car.lol
Lmao these guys are just weak and wack look at all that lost torque and hp from crank crap made car for over price lol they have to use a 16 where agera r is a twin turbo v8 shows true performance to shit performance FTw agera r vs veryon 24/7 365
No, I think this is more than just a paint job and a new set of rims. Bugatti Veyron R, harder-edged? It would nuke every single car on the road if it followed the old fashioned recipe of "Remove weight, add power". The new Enzo and P1? Screwed...
bugatti is bored
And the story here is? It's like the other special addition models Veyrons. They change the color, maybe the rims, and add on another $100k. Bugatti is a sweet company steeped in tradition, but they aren't Rolls Royce. They need new designs.
I just wonder what's going to be the price
Ha, while they're doing their sedan, Koenigsegg sure will come up with something faster! Or at least something that can corner.
@erik at least the name veyron isn't gay... I wish they would bring back the Atlantic name
I would never want this car or any other Veyron. If it was given to me, I'd sell it immediately. $40,000 for a set of tires that lasts 2500 miles, $20,000 for a routine service if there are no issues, and <10mpg. Not interested.
I wish they were new veyrons. Same old veyron with a different color and different rims. All of em not that good looking.
It should be called the Bugatti ultimate instead of veyron which has been overused
Is anyone else thinking that buggati should just stop making the veyron and make another kind cause to me im getting tired of hearing about new veyrons
I wonder what and where you can go with a car in 1.8 sec. Maybe its good for hunting a flying bee. Its insane but definetely dream car its stunning!!!!
Just admit it this is a car you'll have if it was cheaper
Agree with both of you.
Me too. Im never going to go that fast. But if i do, i want it to be in a good looking vehicle. Not that.
Impressive numbers? Sure. But I'd rather have something else.