Comments - Rebadged Disasters: Pontiac G3/Wave

Published: Nov 12, 2012
Description: Let's be honest, Pontiac was a brand on the brink of collapsing in on itself already in early 2009. The arrowhead badge had only recently suffered the indignity of the Aztek and the letdown of th...
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Aaron Crisp Nov 13, 2012
Yeah I actually really liked the Pontiac Solstice and the other version, the Saturn Sky. Good little cars. The GXP model is turbocharged.
William Downs Nov 13, 2012
Very easy way to tell if its sarcasm or not... stop taking everything every one says as insults and people talking shit and just look at its as opinions
Tophr Yodasoda Nov 12, 2012
Man up, you girly babies and your tantrums.
Zachary Maurer Nov 12, 2012
I don't know what sarcasm is guys (sarcasm)
Colby Church Nov 12, 2012
I think you guys are just being a little too cute today is all...
Clay Williams Nov 12, 2012
Well how are people supposed to know you don't just talk like that?
Adam Beiersdorfer Nov 12, 2012
To me... "Pretty stellar job" and badge engineering seem pretty sarcastic when combined together... But we take want we want from these words...
Jordan Jackson Nov 12, 2012
I just worked on a truck that should be in this series, a Mitsubishi Raider, it's a rebadged Dodge Dakota, and I never see those things where I live, aside from the one I just worked on
Clay Williams Nov 12, 2012
No were in that sentence did you imply sarcasm. It sounded like you just didn't have any idea what you were talking about
Jordan Jackson Nov 12, 2012
Stephen's defense, sarcasm can be pretty hard to pick up from just texts, unless you make it obnoxiously obvious
Adam Beiersdorfer Nov 12, 2012
I see sarcasm is a foreign language to you... I was trying to imply that badge engineering was not SOLEY a GM thing...
Stephen Tyler Learn Nov 12, 2012
@adam no they didn't which is why mercury is dead and Lincoln is barely hanging on by a thread
Adam Beiersdorfer Nov 12, 2012
Not to bash too much... But Ford did a pretty stellar job on blending 3 different brands as well with some pretty serious badge engineering... Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury (When it was still around)
Stephen Tyler Learn Nov 12, 2012
@garrett I completely agree
Garrett Farmer Nov 12, 2012
Chevy should remake the solstice, update it make it better and sell it as a competitor to the fr-s and brz. I think it would do better now than in the past.
Clay Williams Nov 12, 2012
And people wonder why GM went bankrupt.
Devin Babyn Nov 12, 2012
haha I was thinking something very similar Stephen
Carlton Salmon Nov 12, 2012
Lol @ Stephen.
Stephen Tyler Learn Nov 12, 2012
Carbuzz could just rename this series gm business plan 1970-2009
Jordan Jackson Nov 12, 2012
Tho that one wasn't really a fail, I don't think
Jordan Jackson Nov 12, 2012
Don't forget the Vibe, a Toyota matrix with Pontiac stuff on and in it, lol
David Justice Nov 12, 2012
Badge engineering is laziness at the professional level.
John Diller Nov 15, 2012
Who looks at an aveo and says "this needs to be more widely distributed "
Alex Smith Nov 14, 2012
Looks like a Sonic...
Jerrod Swenson Nov 12, 2012
What was the shadow a spin off of?
Zachary Maurer Nov 12, 2012
What about the dodge shadow?
Colby Church Nov 12, 2012
It wasn't that it was a bad idea, just not executed fully or correctly. The Talon TSI, much like the GSX, was a quick little car for the money. I myself own a 1999 eclipse, and it's been a good car over the years, but I'll stick with my Vette. :)
Jerrod Swenson Nov 12, 2012
Pontiac was so lazy with this car they didn't even put the 2 feet of corrugated plastic on the side like the rest of their models.
Stephen Tyler Learn Nov 12, 2012
The entire eagle company was a bad business plan
Clay Williams Nov 12, 2012
Haha @ nick. And the talon was pretty bad if not as a car you must admit it was a bad business plan
Kyle McCullough Nov 12, 2012
You shut the hell up! Don't diss the talon lol
Clay Williams Nov 12, 2012
I bet the Eagle talon will make the list. God that thing was awful.
Stephen Cobbs Nov 12, 2012
I wonder if the G5 is next. or the late 90's/early 2000's Oldsmobiles.
Jerrod Swenson Nov 12, 2012
Must be an electric car, I can't see an exhaust.
Colby Church Nov 12, 2012
Sexiest car I've ever seen.... Omg.
Description: Though the Pontiac-badged version of the car wouldn't debut until 2009, the car debuted in its original form in 2002. This was the Daewoo Kalos, as it was known in its home market of South Korea....
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John Diller Nov 15, 2012
I work at a car dealership, new model elantras and sonatas are as nice ad any domestic in the same category
Clay Williams Nov 13, 2012
William I know you don't believe me but if you take some time and look it up you'll see that Hyundai lied several times with several models about 0-60 HP and MPG. Knowledge will set you free.
Aaron Crisp Nov 13, 2012
I was never a fan of the Korean automakers until I made a 700 mile road trip in my gf's dads Kia Optima, and have time and time again. It's comfortable, big, interior is great and it gets awesome mileage.
William Downs Nov 13, 2012
And Hyundai never lied about HP ratings or 0-60 , they claimed a false mpg rating, a rating witch was based on an average across there lineup, a mistake witch they omitted to just 3 months after the claim and played the lawsuit against them without second thought
William Downs Nov 13, 2012
And it sounds like you've never actually driven around in the new Hyundai because the interiors looks great and what materials are they supposed to use, carbon fiber, alcantara, maybe titanium, every manufacturer has plastic in there interior... if your gonna talk shit how about use actually facts instead of using your own guesses for your defense
William Downs Nov 13, 2012
Clay etc are u talking about, nothing u said made any sense, Hyundai make great cars and unlike a lot of companies they listen to there customers, prime example is the Hyundai veloster turbo.. people complained that it didn't have enough tirque , they tried tweaking the engine to adjust the problem but the results were less mpg, so they made the turbo model to retain the mpg and give it the torq...
Clay Williams Nov 12, 2012
People look at them see the price tag and without thinking buy it because it looks "neat"
Clay Williams Nov 12, 2012
our cars don't care about that kind of thing". The only reason they sell well is because they use a disproportionate amount of funds on design while completely ignoring the quality or ability of the powertrain.
Clay Williams Nov 12, 2012
My problem with Hyundai is not only the cheapness of the materials they use, the blandness of the interiors, or the all around mundaneness of driving the things, but also the fact that the lie about HP and 0-60 numbers saying that "the people who buy
Colby Church Nov 12, 2012
In order to get established, the earlier models were somewhat "cheaper", but now that they have made themselves known, their quality and designs have escalated to compete in different markets. The Sonata was a huge hit for example. Nice car.
Colby Church Nov 12, 2012
@Clay That statement was uneducated. I'm a domestic guy myself, but why don't you take your happy little tail on over to Google and do some Hyundai research? They are actually making GOOD cars now. Trust me, they aren't as bad as most believe.
Clay Williams Nov 12, 2012
Hyundai my sell a lot of cars but that does not make them good it just means the car buying public is uneducated.
Kyle McCullough Nov 12, 2012
Hyundai and Kia are now very competitive
Zachary Fix Nov 12, 2012
Kora still has not to brag about
Dale Schroeder Nov 12, 2012
ZAZ is still around? Wow, I thought they disappeared with the Iron Curtain.
Description: Daewoo got their start building badge-engineered copies of obsolete designs from other companies. The last of these was the LeMans model, a copy of the Opel Kadett, which it manufactured from 1986 all...
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Austin Bride Nov 13, 2012
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Description: Chassis design for the car was handled in the UK, while the body itself was the work of Italdesign, proving that not all Italian cars are pretty. The design offered some of the best headroom in its cl...
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Description: And it wasn't just unpleasant to drive, it was badly engineered and built too. Forbes called it one of the Worst-Built Cars on the Road, Consumer Reports named it Worst in Overall Safety and Wors...
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Jordan Jackson Nov 12, 2012
It's only true tho, lol
Colby Church Nov 12, 2012
You shut your filthy mouth talking about the General that way!
Paul Dickey Nov 12, 2012
Typical GM move.
Aaron Crisp Nov 13, 2012
Interior does look quite good.
Clay Williams Nov 12, 2012
Colby its people like you that make jerks like Einar think we're all idiots.
Logan LeMonnier Nov 12, 2012
Well that escalated quickly...and pontiacs interiors weren't too bad at the end. I can't stand the pre 2004 interiors though (I think that was the year)
Zachary Maurer Nov 12, 2012
And idk what you're talking about, this interior is great, plastic is so durable
Zachary Maurer Nov 12, 2012
That heated up quickly...
Devin Babyn Nov 12, 2012
Colby you might want to go get that checked out
Jordan Jackson Nov 12, 2012
Wow, we have an idiot in here
Colby Church Nov 12, 2012
@Einar And you're probably a dumb piece of ignorant shit that needs to stop profiling an entire country as if every person is the same and has the same interests and taste. Moron. I'm proud to be an American, so suck my big red, white and blue balls.
Einar Halfdanarson Nov 12, 2012
Well, then you're probably an American. One that's slighty dumber than the rest of the bunch.
Zach Gathercole Nov 12, 2012
I actually like the interior
Jerrod Swenson Nov 12, 2012
The battery is almost as big as the valve cover.
Description: Almost hard to see how they got into any financial trouble, isn't it? 2009 saw a model with a new grille and Pontiac badges. Just one trim level was offered, and the combined 30mpg seemed like so...
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Description: Few in the press had anything nice to say about the car, with the "forgettable" from Edmunds being about the highest praise anyone could bring themselves to bestow upon it. Of course, the fa...
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Jommel Marcella Nov 13, 2012
Well yes, G3 killed Pontiac.
Nick Morella Nov 13, 2012
It's a good pic of a bad car..lol
Jordan Jackson Nov 12, 2012
Ha, this pic reminded me to go to petco today, lol
Dale Schroeder Nov 12, 2012
The worst part is that the Pontiac grille is basically an insert, so it's just blindingly obvious that this is nothing but a quick badge job. That kind of laziness is what killed Plymouth 10 years earlier!