Comments - Turbocharging Pioneers: Buick Grand National

Published: Nov 25, 2012
Description: Behold the majesty that is the Buick Grand National. Forget about technology, the Grand National had it, but it was much more important as a means to change the public's opinion on turbocharging....
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Carlos Elvro Apr 26, 2013
Being the owner of a true 10 sec gn , I love my gn, it's got a mean look to it And performs great! I plan on getting at least 2 more
Roger Simas Feb 05, 2013
As a current owner of an 1987 Grand National I can tell you there might be quicker cars now, but I can't go anywhere without people reacting to seeing a classic. In my 15 years of ownership no one has ever pulled up to race. It's a respect thing!
Alex Arvanitis Nov 27, 2012
Ya these were great in a straight line but I'd take a gto, Pontiac or preferably Ferrari, over one of these. Not bad cars by any means, but even in a gt car, I like compliant handling. My buddy has one of these making big power, it's sketchy but wow
Colby Church Nov 26, 2012
0-60 in 4.7 is faster than most 80's super cars.
Patrick Schalk Nov 25, 2012
Gah you guys need to chill out with the Ferrari comparos.
Tim Puckett Nov 25, 2012
Well 0-60 in 4.7 seconds that is pretty close
Jörgen Nilsson Nov 25, 2012
Tim: similar performance to the 959, F40 and 288GTO? Get real.
Ryan Spencer Nov 25, 2012
Bring it back!!!
Brian Johnston Nov 25, 2012
Burnout king
Tim Puckett Nov 25, 2012
@ nick hell ya especially since this had similar performance but was much cheaper :P
Paul Trahan Nov 25, 2012
One of my all time favs!!
David Parenti Nov 25, 2012
Thankyouuuuu carbuzz.
Tim Preisinger Nov 25, 2012
Best car to ever come out of the 80's!
Alex Arvanitis Nov 27, 2012
And Chevy did good by not putting a 6 in the vette during those times. As a halo car, it would have hurt its image. Gnx's in 87 could hit 60 in a best if 4.7, vettes were around 5.2, but 0-100-0 the vettes whooped gnx's. I love the gnx's turbo 6
Colby Church Nov 26, 2012
The late 70's and 80's were terrible years for the Corvette in terms of power. The oil crisis was going on at the time.
Paul Trahan Nov 25, 2012
This car would out run Vettes of the era with no problem until GM bumped the Vettes power.
Drew Humphrey Nov 25, 2012
When Buick actually made cool cars
Kyle McCullough Nov 25, 2012
So unassuming
Aj White Nov 27, 2012
@Jorge The GN too.
Jorge Gonzalez Nov 25, 2012
I don't know how it started, but this car actually came stock like this, the buick GNX only came in black.
Jason Bartlett Nov 25, 2012
What started the term (murdered out) . Correct me if I'm wrong .
Description: The Grand National didn't start off the monster it would become, and it took almost 10 years before Buick's turbo technology would be up to the task of turning out a good performance car. W...
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Alex Arvanitis Nov 27, 2012
And variable valve timing. I love the ls motors for their light, compact size. I'd swap one into anything from a miata to an r34 or mk4. Ls3 with a single= wow But I love the dyno tuning I can do on my 5.4 4v swap. So adjustable/perfectable.
Alex Arvanitis Nov 27, 2012
A hot air gnx with the right mods can pull 10's easy. He probably does whoop on some late models cake. Chevy has done an amazing job modernizing the ls series but big power is temperamental, one cam and boost don't allow for the flexibility of 4v's
Stephen Ishard Nov 26, 2012
Every array of mustang and gt500 and wasn't the thunderbird only the corvette competition in the sixties
Tyler Ray DeFord Nov 26, 2012
Mustang Focus RS and ST Sierra Cosworth Escort Cosworth SVT Contour Taurus SHO Just Sayin. . .
Colby Church Nov 26, 2012
Ford has always had the Mustang, but GM has had an arsenal of performance vehicles. And before you mention the Ford GT or any other type of race cars, I'm talking about cars most people can actually afford.
Colby Church Nov 26, 2012
That explains a lot. I like Ford to a certain extent, but GM just has a better history with performance cars. If Ford was smart, they would bring back the Thunderbird as a Corvette competitor, but they don't even try, probably because it's no use.
Jonathan Gushue Nov 25, 2012
Maybe a Ford fanboy with a sore ass from prob getting beat by one. Or just a troll.
Tim Puckett Nov 25, 2012
@nick are you just gpnna be a dousche this whole article?
Jason Bartlett Nov 25, 2012
Double thumbs up there sir!
Jonathan Gushue Nov 25, 2012
Love my 85 GN. Even though its still a hot air car, I still make new Camaros and Mustangs look REAL bad.
Jason Bartlett Nov 25, 2012
In 78 these were hot air turbo cars no inter cooler
Description: The carburetors used were really suited to turbo duty, and the Sport Coupe never really achieved much fame. The first Grand National debuted in 1982, but this wasn't quite the car we think of tod...
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Alex Arvanitis Nov 27, 2012
Rated at 200, made like 240.
Alex Renaud Nov 25, 2012
Must be. These were not available from the factory with a V8.
Dimitry Mikhailovich Malikov Nov 25, 2012
You mean a 3.8 V6, right?
Dimitry Mikhailovich Malikov Nov 25, 2012
Soo cool!
Paul Trahan Nov 25, 2012
Love it!
Jason Bartlett Nov 25, 2012
Nice set of sticky 10.5s out back . Nice!
Brock Bulbul Nov 25, 2012
Hah. That definitely looks like Darth Vader
Description: The Grand National received it's blacked-out color scheme for the first time in 1984 as well, a menacing feature which would become a trademark. Though just 2,000 units were produced in '84,...
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Description: This was "the Grand National to end all Grand Nationals". For the GNX, the engine was given a going-over and was now "smarter". For the GNX, it produced 276 horsepower and 360lb-ft...
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Alex Arvanitis Nov 27, 2012
A lot of motors can make 1500hp. Al papito racing run 6's with a 323 ci 5.3 (debored and sleeved) 4v modular making 2000whp with off the shelf cams and common man affordable internals/turbo tech. They've gone 6.21@215+... It's the aeromotive car
Alex Arvanitis Nov 27, 2012
I plan to build a 1200whp c5 and am going to start with a 99 frc, because I'm going to change all suspension/etc. I'm pretty versed on parts I plan on and my motor build alone will top $25,000. A couple grand is not a smart/reliable build.
Alex Arvanitis Nov 27, 2012
Wow, a couple grand? No. My buddy's 1200whp c6 needed $35,000 in turbo, motor and cam mods. A c5 ls6 is not much less. You can make 1000whp once on te dyno for a couple grand but it won't last on stock internals and cam/heads.
Colby Church Nov 26, 2012
Not to mention the LS engines can make over 1509hp. Don't be a moron, I think GM executives know more about a car's worth and heritage than you do. Don't make ignorant comments, what GM did makes sense. The Corvette has 50 times the fanbase.
Colby Church Nov 26, 2012
@Nawwaf GM will never kill the Corvette. It's their pride and joy. And look how far it's come and where it's going. It's a super car killer for a fraction of the cost. I can go buy a 2002 Z06 for $22k and build it up to 900hp for a few thousand!
Colby Church Nov 26, 2012
@Nawaaf Are you stupid dude? The Corvette had been around since 1953, and you expect them to kill the Corvette over a car that had just came out and bore no resemblance? You're stupid. The Corvette is the flagship. The GNX is just another car.
Matthew Crighton Nov 25, 2012
Derp. How can GMC be a sub-division of GENERaL MOTOR COMPANY?
David Parenti Nov 25, 2012
Unless he meant General Motors Corporation...
William Downs Nov 25, 2012
Except GMC had nothing to do with Buick or the corvette, GMC is just a sub division of general motors
Jason Bartlett Nov 25, 2012
Your buddy must be friggin rich or stupid lucky to have two gnx's! Buick only sent 547 cars to mclaren to have the gnx package installed. They are crazy rare , and worth a crap load
Kyle McCullough Nov 25, 2012
I know a guy with two GNXs and an 87 regal limited t-type. The regal runs high 9s
Thibault Leroy Nov 25, 2012
Pretty much a trademark for 80's cars
Jommel Marcella Nov 25, 2012
Dashboard shapes: squares.
Alex Arvanitis Nov 27, 2012
That is a beautiful alternator, wow. Oh, cool motor as well. The alternator just caught my eye and stole my heart.
Description: The Grand National was running the quarter-mile in the 14-second range by the time it was retired, and owners soon found that just a few easy modifications could bring it down to 13s. The GN was a mon...
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Alex Arvanitis Nov 27, 2012
The vette pulled .86, the iroc could pull .95 with Hoosiers... Tires were the major problem back then. Suspension tuning was soft though but 30 years ago, times were way different.
Description: Thus would begin Buick's slide into irrelevance which nearly killed it off. The Grand National is still a car much sought after by collectors. The '87 models are considered the most definiti...
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Jason Bartlett Nov 25, 2012
I always thought it would be cool if they put the hurst lightning rod set up in one of these .
Alex Renaud Nov 25, 2012
Go Canada!
Dimitry Mikhailovich Malikov Nov 25, 2012
Me too!
Tim Preisinger Nov 25, 2012
Love this car
Jason Bartlett Nov 25, 2012
Absolutely my fav 80's muscle car hands down .
Description: The Grand National was a proper muscle car in an era when V8 muscle cars were pretty unimpressive. A lot of muscle car enthusiasts still preferred a V8 even after the Grand National, but it was still ...
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Colby Church Nov 26, 2012
Agreed Jordan. It looks like my grandma's Oldsmobile, but knowing how fast it is with it looking like a granny car makes it a sleeper to most.
Jordan Smith Nov 25, 2012
I understand what you're saying, but the whole geezer look is why it was so badass and aggressive. I like it.
Jason Bartlett Nov 25, 2012
Hearing a v6 under full boost sounds pretty unique .