Description: South Korean automakers Hyundai and Kia have been on a roll lately. Once the butt of jokes, both are now producing well-built, attractively-priced and nicely-designed cars. Just a decade ago, the very...Add Comments23
Mike WisenburgDec 28, 2012 I have a 2012 optima sx and I love it. The car I traded in was a 05 Benz c230 s/c. The Kia may not be as nice as the Benz it's not too far behide and its alot faster!
Shane CarrollDec 27, 2012 I've had the misfortune of working on quite a few Kia's, and I have to say the quality just isn't there. Yet, anyway. I understand they're growing, but this seems a tad...optimistic, for this early in the game
jenni_drivesDec 27, 2012 Twenty years ago we had Lexus and Infiniti.
Chris PenzaDec 27, 2012 Hyundai has been impressing me, but kias are just all the same car in a different body style. I find them unoriginal and boring
Daniel FriscoDec 27, 2012 Yeah right I'm gonna trade my 4 Mercedes for a Kia or a Hyundai that will be the day !
William DownsDec 27, 2012 Why would they drop KIA when there out selling Hyundai rite now... what they need to do is keep KIA on its current path, and Hyundai needs to be the luxury brand... KIA is already doing fantastic with its racing program... u don't fuck with what's working thas when shit goes wrong
Rob ClarkDec 27, 2012 They can't go upmarket with the Kia name. If I was running things over there I would drop the Kia name, keep Hyundai as direct Toyota, Honda, Nissan competitor, & create a new brand to compete with Lexus, Acura, & Infiniti.
Chris GainesDec 27, 2012 they should change the name, styling, and badging. oh and the engines, drive layout, handling, and consumer opinion. apparently... challenge accepted lol
Madjid MirmohamadsadeghiDec 27, 2012 They have no originality. Neither design wise nor technology wise. cmd+c ---> cmd+v
Jimmy WilliamsDec 27, 2012 It just doesn't make sense; Hyundai has been making the push for luxury brand with the Genesis and Equus, why start over?
Jacob BurfordDec 26, 2012 I know Kia has come a long way on the last couple years, but this is going a little too far!
Stray KotsDec 26, 2012 \/\/ Agreed, Kias did well in their lower price ranges. They definitely seemed better than the horrific re-badged cars from GM and others. At least they didn't start life as an Indian bicycle with Rubbermaidian re-engineering
Kaigan VinerDec 26, 2012 I always thought kias were cheaper Hyundais
Chris FriendDec 26, 2012 Keep Kia combatting lower end cheapo cars, position Hyundai as the middle to compete with higher end Fords and Chevys, and then move the Genesis, K-9, & Equus under their own luxo brand.
Swarun KulasekaranDec 26, 2012 I always expected this too happen, Kia and Hyundai shouldn't occupy the same niche. Although I always thought Hyundai would be the premium brand, not Kia
Carlos Eduardo GaviriaDec 26, 2012 The comments truly take me back to ten years ago when I used to work for a Hyundai dealership
Zaire WilkinsDec 26, 2012 @matt anythinh is possible just like the LS loosing to the hyundai equus
Tho MADec 26, 2012 Go ahead make jokes. But remember toyota and nissan 20 years ago? Today we have Lexus and Infiniti. The Lexus Ls, probably one of the best luxury sedan on the road. I know i have one and driven many
Matt PiccoloDec 26, 2012 Ahahaha Kia a premium brand? I understand they've been improving their products but they'll nvr been a premium brand lmao
Stray KotsDec 26, 2012 I remember the only time I ever heard "Kia", it was followed by "just $5,998." We also had a buy-one-get-one deal while I was unemployed T_T
Constantine BourisDec 26, 2012 kia repositioning itself as a premium brand!!
Justin StevensDec 28, 2012 It will never be German no matter how hard you try KIA
Jason BrownDec 28, 2012 They start almost at 60k without tax and registration fees and full option without tax will cost you over 90k. No one will pick this over the Equus here.
Jason BrownDec 28, 2012 Greg. Hyundai doesn't have one of these, it is only for Kia. You might have seen photos of them from here in Korea but are same with K9 not KIA badge. They are very expensive here domestically. Most of the K9 you see here are corporate leases.
Josh X WilliamsDec 27, 2012 Hell yea! Love the look of these.
Greg KenerlyDec 27, 2012 I love the news report on Family Guy. "Kia...Too bad it's a Kia". Hyundai has one of these and I've seen it and its really nice but that badge is really important in a luxury vehicle. Hyundai and Kia don't belong at the Country Club.
David MunasingheDec 27, 2012 Really . This is how you make a Gran Turismo Omologatoluxury brand. Copy a Quatroporte .lol
Roman PodrezovDec 26, 2012 Never thought I would ever hear Hyndai/Kia and Luxury brand in the same sentence. Maybe my grandchildren will think of it that way because they won't know where these cars came from, but in my mind it will always be an economy brand of cars. Well, at least until something REALLY impresses me.
Description: Hyoung-Keun Lee has gone on record stating that Kia will become a premium brand by 2017. Which may seem like a stretch when you look at the Forte or Rio, but less when you look at the Quoris/K9. K...Add Comments8
Jason BrownDec 28, 2012 I think some people are confusing premium and luxury. They are not the same word. Kia can go premium, doesn't mean they will pass Hyundai's plans to go luxury. Hyundai already has premium models in many areas around the world.
Megan MoodyDec 27, 2012 They have to do this. Only way to make money and keep the company profitable as it & workers get older. Same problem GM and all others have. Need that fat profit margin on premium cars. Chinese cars are coming! Can't be cheap forever.
Matthew van der LindeDec 27, 2012 This thing will only work if they can produce upscale cars at lowscale prices, i mean once kia start pricing cars in the same league as BMW and benz, nobodys gonna go for the kia are they?
Zaire WilkinsDec 26, 2012 your right they just (hyundai) just have upscale cars
Matt PiccoloDec 26, 2012 Neither of them are upscale brand at the moment... I don't get what u guys are arguing about
Zaire WilkinsDec 26, 2012 @dylan & jesse making an upscale brand is way to late if anything they should have started in the 90's or 80's it would take to much time and money
Jesse WilliamsDec 26, 2012 Kia should be like Dodge as Hyundai should be like Chrysler or Kia should be like Toyota as Hyundai should be like Lexus. There's no sense of having 2 upscale brands of the same company.
Dylan BruderDec 26, 2012 This is confusing Hyundai is supposed to be the upmarket Kia now Kia goes upmarket too?
Description: Those are both vehicles which share the same basic architecture as the Quoris, and which succeeded in repositioning the brand as a compelling and more attractively-priced alternative to its Japanese o...Add Comments3
Matt PiccoloDec 26, 2012 The optima is okay. It's nicer than the sonata but still not class leading in any sence
William DownsDec 26, 2012 Optima isn't going anywhere ... only gonna get better
Janya PulusuDec 26, 2012 Wait does that mean no more optima??!
Dale SchroederDec 27, 2012 Quoris... what an awful name. Sounds like the medical name for a rash.
William DownsDec 27, 2012 What ya gonna get when that catches fire? :D
Andres Felipe Terreros DoradoDec 27, 2012 In Colombia they are selling the quoris! The price is 100,000 bucks, for that price I prefer the fisker karma
William DownsDec 27, 2012 U all sound like broken fucking records every time an article came up " oh they copyed off of this company" in fact if u wanna get technical every single car on the planet is copying of of ford... ford came up with the model t and everyone copyed the idea
William DownsDec 27, 2012 Walter go take a look at the k7 which was out before the current gen 5&7 series BMW before u go running your mouth like u know what your talking about... u all need to get over your self's... every car company copys others... there is only so much u can do to be original with 100s of car company's trying to claim the same market
Chris GainesDec 27, 2012 haha Walter put you guys in ur places
Walter Alexander ThomasDec 27, 2012 Actually you are a lie. The five series takes much from the seven series so. Kia obvious took off BMW. It is very smart to look at kia's past design language verses the new. You will be smart enough to not say BMW stole from Kia.
Zaire WilkinsDec 26, 2012 yea kia actually already made this before the 7 series so some of you may feel stupid ATP
Victor PittsDec 26, 2012 I see VW (taillights), Audi (A7 features, like the slantback), BMW (obvious the front grille, wheels) and also some Lincoln (those stupid fender parts)...
Janak SolankiDec 26, 2012 I don't think so. This is a blatant rip off from BMW.
Timothy HookerDec 26, 2012 this argument again? Kia came out with this design first
William DownsDec 26, 2012 Yea to bad KIA had this design on the k7 before the new bmws
Matt PiccoloDec 26, 2012 Eh BMW u can do better... Oh wait.... It's just a cheap BMW copy from Kia, nvr mind
Sumair InayatDec 26, 2012 Looks like a copy of the 7- Series BMW.
Jacob MullnerDec 26, 2012 I'd definitely drive it, but I agree the wheels need changing
Matt SuttonDec 27, 2012 Thank you william. I have no idea what people see in bmw. The styling is ok at best. The interiors lack any excitement. I looked at them and MB for a new car, but just couldnt fathom why one would spend that money on them. I just dont get it.
William DownsDec 27, 2012 After driving an ass load of BMW for years I really don't know what the appeal is... there not that great looking crept a few models and drive like every other car... and there interior layoutis sooo damn bboring. Could never understand why they cost so much other then the badge
Michael NienDec 27, 2012 Looks like someone got too excited looking at the model standing by the bumper.
Luke PurdyDec 26, 2012 Yeah now they are starting to copy other manufacturers designs
Janak SolankiDec 26, 2012 BMW vs Kia = Real Diamond vs Cubic Zirconia
Alberto MassarottoMay 03, 2013 Ah the Kia Amanti. I once met a guy that rented one of these. Best thing I can say about it.
Howard DingDec 28, 2012 wtf is this! looks like too much alike a bentley flying spur!
Jason BrownDec 28, 2012 There is actually a special term for those female drivers. "김여사" (kim yo-sa) basically sums up terrible driver who has no concerns for other drivers and traffic laws...
Jason BrownDec 28, 2012 Remained basically unchanged for at least 20 years. So if you say a Benz knock off from 2000... Research the design of this car and you will see it has been around a while. I personally think the people who drive these in Korea are the worst drivers.
Jason BrownDec 28, 2012 Oh the Orphius... The much hated car of the young in Korea. Old drivers behind these are much worse than a minivan driver full of screaming babies and children. They are suppose to detach themselves of this car and replace it with the K9.
Shane CarrollDec 27, 2012 Saw one of these at the gas station, I've never heard an engine make a noise like that. Sounded like a brick in a washing machine.
David MunasingheDec 27, 2012 This is a smaller version of a Lincoln town car from 1997- 2001. Or a jag S type ripoff
Zaire WilkinsDec 27, 2012 wow i didnt even notice those LED's
Craig GenserDec 26, 2012 Hopefully the car in this picture is in a scrap yard right now along with the driver.
Luke PurdyDec 26, 2012 Biggest rip off an old Mercedes E class
Adam MitchelDec 26, 2012 At least they didn't put the KIA emblem on the grill
Alex BouckleyDec 26, 2012 Agreed Janak. Or even better, 2 meteors!
Janak SolankiDec 26, 2012 I would like to see this hit by a meteor.
Janak SolankiDec 26, 2012 E-Class rip off right down to the mono block wheels.
William DownsDec 26, 2012 I see it now, but only in the grill, those head lights are straight s type but that grill is merc
Will RidgwayDec 26, 2012 I love how this car came standard with LED turn signal strips. Haha even some luxury cars today still don't have that. I never really understood how those made their way onto the front fascia...
Erich EngelDec 26, 2012 I see w211 Mercedes e more than jaguar s type but I see bof a dem
Chris AndrewsDec 26, 2012 Obviously you haven't seen a e class then william
William DownsDec 26, 2012 Go look at the jaguar s type from 2000 something. Deffinatly don't look like no mercedes I've seen
Kyle McCulloughDec 26, 2012 This is such a blatant rip-off of Mercedes it's pathetic
Brandon HarpDec 26, 2012 My dad used to have one of these, not as bad on acceleration as you would think, it's faster than his ford five hundred he has now at least
I have a 2012 optima sx and I love it. The car I traded in was a 05 Benz c230 s/c. The Kia may not be as nice as the Benz it's not too far behide and its alot faster!
I've had the misfortune of working on quite a few Kia's, and I have to say the quality just isn't there. Yet, anyway. I understand they're growing, but this seems a tad...optimistic, for this early in the game
Twenty years ago we had Lexus and Infiniti.
@Tho Ma... I totally agree with you.
Hyundai has been impressing me, but kias are just all the same car in a different body style. I find them unoriginal and boring
Yeah right I'm gonna trade my 4 Mercedes for a Kia or a Hyundai that will be the day !
Why would they drop KIA when there out selling Hyundai rite now... what they need to do is keep KIA on its current path, and Hyundai needs to be the luxury brand... KIA is already doing fantastic with its racing program... u don't fuck with what's working thas when shit goes wrong
They can't go upmarket with the Kia name. If I was running things over there I would drop the Kia name, keep Hyundai as direct Toyota, Honda, Nissan competitor, & create a new brand to compete with Lexus, Acura, & Infiniti.
they should change the name, styling, and badging. oh and the engines, drive layout, handling, and consumer opinion. apparently... challenge accepted lol
They have no originality. Neither design wise nor technology wise. cmd+c ---> cmd+v
It just doesn't make sense; Hyundai has been making the push for luxury brand with the Genesis and Equus, why start over?
I know Kia has come a long way on the last couple years, but this is going a little too far!
\/\/ Agreed, Kias did well in their lower price ranges. They definitely seemed better than the horrific re-badged cars from GM and others. At least they didn't start life as an Indian bicycle with Rubbermaidian re-engineering
I always thought kias were cheaper Hyundais
Keep Kia combatting lower end cheapo cars, position Hyundai as the middle to compete with higher end Fords and Chevys, and then move the Genesis, K-9, & Equus under their own luxo brand.
I always expected this too happen, Kia and Hyundai shouldn't occupy the same niche. Although I always thought Hyundai would be the premium brand, not Kia
The comments truly take me back to ten years ago when I used to work for a Hyundai dealership
@matt anythinh is possible just like the LS loosing to the hyundai equus
Go ahead make jokes. But remember toyota and nissan 20 years ago? Today we have Lexus and Infiniti. The Lexus Ls, probably one of the best luxury sedan on the road. I know i have one and driven many
Ahahaha Kia a premium brand? I understand they've been improving their products but they'll nvr been a premium brand lmao
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I remember the only time I ever heard "Kia", it was followed by "just $5,998." We also had a buy-one-get-one deal while I was unemployed T_T
kia repositioning itself as a premium brand!!