Comments - Non-Italian Exotics: SRT Viper

Published: Sep 24, 2012
Description: What makes something a supercar and not just a sports car? A difficult question, but necessary if we're going to say it's the first American supercar. Perhaps it's the Shelby Cobra, or ...
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Clay Williams Sep 26, 2012
Oh I know about the hood I was more thinking engineering wise.
John Serely Sep 25, 2012
@clay to answer your question, the GTS had a different hood
Drew Storrusten Sep 25, 2012
@zach, I've been having the same problem. And @ben, yeah if ford can just put the IRS in their new gt500, I would love to see the lap times against the Camaro. But against the ZR1 vette, idk how well it'd do. I'm skeptic of that one.....
Ben Knorr Sep 25, 2012
agreed. they need to bring back the IRS. Hopefully being out performed in a track setting by the ZL1 will help sway them in that direction.
Drew Storrusten Sep 25, 2012
Well idk if you wanna count the 1000 horse super snake, but unless mustang can liven up the suspension to handle the 700 horse then they won't be able to take it to the track in a very outstanding way. I seriously wanna see it with IRS. Nothing else.
Ben Knorr Sep 25, 2012
An ACR version of this viper is sure to be everybit as hardcore as the old one and would destroy the current ZR1. Lets hope GM ups the ante with the C7 ZR1. Who's gonna be the first to hit 700hp? Mustang probably haha
Miguel Jimenez Sep 25, 2012
I went to go look it up and they're keeping the OHV design.
Zeus Mocha Sep 24, 2012
Haha clay it's nurburgring, unless there is a Nuremberg, which since my phone just capitalized probably exists, then shame on me XD ZR1 or ACR? Tough. I heard something about an LT4
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
@Patrick I heard it was still a pushrod and the same block as the LS3.
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
Not to change the subject, but I'm really interest to see if the new C7 is gonna use the 5.5L engine they've been talking about. Maybe DOHC?
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
He said he likes Ford but is excited for the C7. I don't think I could choose between the ZR1 and ACR. Me likes LS motors but an ACR is an ACR. I'll go with the ZR1 I guess.
Drew Storrusten Sep 24, 2012
Well no I was just saying like, normally I dot like Chevy but the corvette is an exception. An yes ford needs to get a super car going!!! I wanna see that. Even if it is another gt.
Drew Storrusten Sep 24, 2012
And with how much I like ford, to be honest I really wanna see what the new c7 looks like. I mean, honestly I like the looks of the c6, and the performance, but I really wanna see the new vette. :D
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
They need to take the new gts to the Nuremberg to compare ASAP
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
I bet you the new gts can already come pretty close to the oils ACRs lap time just imagine what a new one could do.
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
I just hope they come out with it within the next year and a half or so. I wanna see a Ring time video and an improvement on time!
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
No Ross you said it wrong it's pronounced "mopar or no car"
Thomas Mackey Sep 24, 2012
Zr1is good....but viper is an American exotic. Damn good looks and faster on any track.
Ross Vermillion Sep 24, 2012
zr1 all day... GM for life
Thomas Mackey Sep 24, 2012
ACR would destroy horses and bulls left and right.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
If they come out with an ACR version it would destroy all of humanity in its wake of awesome!!!
Thomas Mackey Sep 24, 2012
Clay they will have tons of options to customize each model.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
Does anyone know will there be any differences between the gts and base viper other than the carbon fiber, interior, and traction control?
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
I think I might like the overall look of the base viper over the gts, I really think the old style hood is better, but on the other hand I like the carbon fiber touches as well.
Zeus Mocha Sep 24, 2012
Yea it is getting a little personal. I like the viper GTS in the yellow with the carbon back (if thats an option) and then GTS rims in black (if that's an option)
Dillon Dixon Sep 24, 2012
Many, but not all. Maybe it's just the town or city you live in. You experience a very small percentage if corvette owners, but obviously that's enough to go and troll every vette article.
Austin Lark Sep 24, 2012
Ohhhh parental supervision always works out great. Thank God all parents are smart and know what they are doing or that tool of a corvette owner would have a reason to flip out. Shame on him haha
Dillon Dixon Sep 24, 2012
I have never met a bad corvette owner. Our corvette club in Amarillo run just about every car show in town. They run the annual Make-A-Wish show which raises lots of money for the great cause!
Zeus Mocha Sep 24, 2012
Yes but relating these stories with the way you feel about a car in even the slightest way is not cool. A car is a car no matter if a crack pot drives it or our mothers.
Austin Lark Sep 24, 2012
Hmm maybe ur friends were scratching his car..... I wouldn't be happy about someone not washing a car right and ruining the paint.
Dillon Dixon Sep 24, 2012
I will never understand why the Corvette will get hated on by so many people. And there is a ridiculous amount of stupid in this article.
Aaron Crisp Sep 24, 2012
You hate someone because of the car they drive? You must hate a lot of old retired men hahaha
Austin Lark Sep 24, 2012
Actually I know and have met a ton of corvette owners and every one of them are just cool guys. Super nice and really just some good ole boys.
Zeus Mocha Sep 24, 2012
Didn't know it's available on 4, that's cool. Agreed, I believe that the GTR, Viper, and Corvette are pinnacles. They are fudging awesome, that is why we have so many "danboys" and that's we are "danboys" hahaha btw can anyone see the car? -> 🚗 <-
Matt Piccolo Sep 24, 2012
And I'm not getting In an argument since I'm sick so I'm just leaving it at that
Matt Piccolo Sep 24, 2012
@ Patrick, but it's another thing when the good is canceled out by the 1990's style civic interior! I can respect it performance wise but as a whole car that I would have to live with, not at all...
Ben Knorr Sep 24, 2012
Clay said it best; viper vs vette? Either way you come out on top because they are both great cars. nuff said.
Devin Babyn Sep 24, 2012
If you think all they changed was the length of it then you know nothing about it
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
Ok so what does? The hand built engine? Constantly better statistics than it's rivals and cars that cost two and three times more? The magnetic suspension? It's sales numbers? It's resale value? It's popularity?
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
Have you not seen how many races the Corvette team has won recently? Or are you just using your opinion as "facts" again?
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
Understand how the free market works? No car would exist that long if they didn't have something special about them.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
I think the problem with comparing the vette and the viper is no matter how many performance #s and historic values you through around it really doesn't matter because we all love cars and these are booth great cars.
John Serely Sep 24, 2012
Back to the vette vs viper, if you ignored everything but the engine, tranny and handling, I honestly what haves very hard time. But, with the exterior, and interior of the viper, I'd go with that I haven't updated my 4 to iOS6 yet, so :(
Austin Lark Sep 24, 2012
@patrick I know what u mean man. And I'd also have a hard time choosing between the two.
Drew Storrusten Sep 24, 2012
Sorry, not trying to offend anyone too btw. Just hoping to resolve a little something. Lol.
Drew Storrusten Sep 24, 2012
Our shores and have considerably shown that they are super cars. These cars KICKASS!!! GO AMERICAN BUILT!!!!
Drew Storrusten Sep 24, 2012
Took the time though to make their at right. And it has paid off. Not saying vettes never had the time and effort put in too, cause they've put in all this time and effort for this many years now. Both of these cars in turn are AMERICAN, HOMEBUILT on
Drew Storrusten Sep 24, 2012
Because thy have made their way through performance through history, annnnd!!! Do it with a small block too.... That's impressive. An I'm a ford fan too. But IMO dodge made super car status because Shelby did help make a great car, and srt really...
Drew Storrusten Sep 24, 2012
Because they have a v10 naturally aspirated made out of, you guessed it "plastic" and they are In the right price range, new phone software rocks, and discussing homework makes you smarter. Look equally, the vette should be considered a super car....
Drew Storrusten Sep 24, 2012
So basically the ideas behind all these arguments are these... Vettes can't be super cars becaus rod their price but should be considered super cars because they have 60+years of experience and have become cheap plastic, but viper is a super car....
Austin Lark Sep 24, 2012
If you want to talk cars with valid points without having childish arguments I'm all for it. If u want to talk about phones and argue like a child, then trade numbers and giggle all night with each other without annoying everyone else.
Zeus Mocha Sep 24, 2012
I would have the same problem with the cars.
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
I won't say either car is better. I'd have a REALLY hard time choosing between and ACR and a ZR1 if given the chance to own/drive one. BUT I will say that a car doesn't exist for 60+ years for nothing.
Dan Rather Sep 24, 2012
I just like cars for what they are not where they are from, who made it, what its pedigree is. None of that matters in my mind its just the final product that matters. I just respect good design and the viper and the vette definitely both have it.
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
@Dan I'm a Mopar Guy as much as I'm a Chevy guy. At car shows we seem to get along just fine.
Dan Rather Sep 24, 2012
What's not to like about that add a decent suspension for like 2k and for 40 grand you could have a crazy track car
Dan Rather Sep 24, 2012
Of them at track days and autocrosses and its funny because the owners get along a lot better than the car buzz readers lol. Back to the vette I can pick a c6 up used here in Cali get a supercharger for 8grand and get near 600hp and still pass smog
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
It's true they were made of the same stuff but that doesn't really matter, all that maters is how the compare as an all abound car. And In my opinion the viper is simply better.
Dan Rather Sep 24, 2012
I think they are both awesome cars too. I don't get why you'd want to attack either car. They both are gonna have flaws. Don't see why people don't understand why people defend vettes. Bottom line they are cheap attainable performance. I've seen both
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
Ik, I just think its fun to get the vette boys pissed, I actually love the z06...a 7.0 NA beast, just like the viper
Dan Rather Sep 24, 2012
I think it's funny that all these people claim to have driven or rode in both the vette and the viper and complaining about the vette being made from fiberglass/plastic don't realize the previous generation vipers were made of the same stuff.
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
Lol, idk what happened when I typed in fanboy It corrected to danboy...whatever iOS 6
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
But that doesn't mean I have to bring up the viper on every flippin article.
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
It's kind of hard to tell when someone's joking over written over typed words unless you make it clear. How about adding some emotion to it so people know you're joking like haha or lol.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
I've got nothing against Danboys I'm a viper Danboys myself.
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
@clay, idk, same with mustang camaro, lambo Ferrari, it was because that Colby kid was a danboy
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
Well the TC definitely has something to go with the vipers new level of control.
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
@Zach huh? Dude it's kind of hard to take you serious when you don't make sense half the time.
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
I usually don't eather, but when u call me dumb...
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
Why when ever there's a viper article does the vette always get pulled into it?
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
What does being dumb have to do with cars, and u said that u thought rolls was a sports car because of the price, then I told u to re read my comment...
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
Since of humor? What's that?
Dan Rather Sep 24, 2012
@Clay the easier to drive doesn't just come from TC it's the way stiffer chassis, improve suspension dynamics , better braking, and a wider body to hold wider tires and ton of other things I'm probably missing.
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
@Zach Drop out? Do you know me personally? I'm sorry I don't brag about my age over the internet.
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
When did I ever say I thought the Rolls was a sports car? Since when does price determine wether or not it's a super car? What does having straight A's have to do with cars lol?
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
But I don't want to argue with a douche bag, so ill go do my homework while he cools down and continues to be a drop out, adios :D
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
Listen Miguel, how about you actually re read my comment carefully as I say that people now and days determine cars classifications by price instead of other stuff, and like I said you must have no since of humor because I always joke about the vette
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
"the vette (zr1) is just a sports car because it doesn't cost over 150,000 and has more plastic than a recycling plant." ya you sound real intelligent bud.
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
And Miguel I was saying that most cars sports and super are determined by price, If you think a rolls is a sports car then you might be the dumb one...plus I'm a straight A student...soooo don't assume
Dan Rather Sep 24, 2012
As in luxury car smooth ride. I mean comfortable at the limit. Aka good driving feedback, controllable over steer etc.
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
@Dan both my comments were directed to Zachary, chill out dude.
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
Theirs have stayed around that long
Dan Rather Sep 24, 2012
@miguel are u referring to me? Because anyone who has actually driven at a track knows what I'm talking about. It's important that you are comfortable pushing the car to its limit. Maybe you didn't read all my posts. I'm not talking about comfortable
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
And if you think I'm new here you're sadly mistaken I've been here since Ken and Andy were trolling these articles. Now that that I think of it I've had this app for about 2 years now.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
That's why you can turn off the TC to get the real viper experience. The now systems are for the most part just enforced government regulation.
Dan Rather Sep 24, 2012
Polish is supposed to be pushed*
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
New fanboy? Dude it's simple you just sound dumb how hard is that to process? You're saying what makes a super car it's is price so by your logic a Rolls Royce is a super car?
Dan Rather Sep 24, 2012
Liked the most was its added refinement and how much easier it was to control although this was a limited test so I don't think they polish the limits too much. I wouldn't be surprised if the new viper is "easier" to drive than the zr1.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
... It's all the same.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
Being around for 50+ years doesn't make it better. How long has the impala been around? It seems to me that lately a lot of car company's have just been using old names from there hay day to make people like it more. dart, impala, charger...
Dan Rather Sep 24, 2012
Are easier to drive at the limit and people who aren't professional drivers can actually push them a lot more comfortably and not only perform better but also have a lot more fun. Btw I read in motortrend when they drove the new viper the thing they
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
But I don't think most people have driven a zr1, or srt-10, and if they have they were on carbuzzes weekly DFA
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
@clay, most of us haven't, maybe John, and I've rode in both a vette and viper (09)
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
And clay, if anything the vette has about 10x more passion and soul as the viper, it's been around for over 50 years, the viper, what like 12? The guys at chevy know what works and what dosent, the boys at dodge had to go back to the drawing board...
Dan Rather Sep 24, 2012
@Clay since when is easier to drive a bad thing btw. not that I think your statement is necessarily true. That's often a sign of well balanced and designed car. That's one of the reasons why ferraris and Lamborghinis get such high praise because they
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
I wasent saying that, but a lot of people do, and Miguel is now the new fanboy here, and I know the vette has carbon fibre and all the crap, you must have no since of humor, but the seats are crappy, they move around if you break to hard (z06)
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
... Driving these to cars I'm only going of what I've seen and read about them so I could be completely wrong.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
Ok ok. Maybe I'm being a little hard on the vette. I'll give it credit where it deserves it, to really is a good car and I do like the vette. Just for me personally the viper is on a whole different level, and know I have not had the privilege of..
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
@Clay have you driven both of these? Me personally I haven't so I can't really say they require the same amount of skill. I can't ever choose between the two, it's close to impossible IMO.
Zeus Mocha Sep 24, 2012
Not comparing C6 with new gen viper*
Zeus Mocha Sep 24, 2012
Or at least comparing base vette with the viper. The high ends of both are pretty much on par. There are points where one is better than the other but it a very subtle difference. I'm not saying vette is better just that they are "doppelgängers"
Ross Taylor Sep 24, 2012
But you could be talking about something different entirely...im just wondering....regardless, I'm a fan of both cars and would love to have them both so screw the arguing lol..to me I don't care what its "title" is.
Zeus Mocha Sep 24, 2012
Clay please tell me your joking
Ross Taylor Sep 24, 2012
@Clay, What do you mean by "it doesn't have the same level of passion as the viper?" Because I think it takes a great deal of passion to keep a model such as the Corvette in production for almost 60 years now...
Justin Routh Sep 24, 2012
@Zachary the viper is only a sports car cuz it doesnt have a supercharger? 640hp 600lb/ft is that not enough? Lol
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
The corvette just doesn't have the same level of passion as the viper and the the vette is definitely easier to drive.
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
@Clay has no soul? Dumb statement my friend, dumb statement. 6.2L supercharged smallblock is pretty large. Chrysler and Chevy made these cars with the same intentions fast, inexpensive, and a pure drivers car that only real men can drive.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
Not enough differences? The viper is a hardcore beast with the largest engine and best torque the sports car has ever seen while the ZR1 is just a car that's fast but really has no soul.
Zeus Mocha Sep 24, 2012
but it will compete if not hurt most of the big boys. Price isn't the issue when it's about cars that are insanely insane.
Zeus Mocha Sep 24, 2012
I'd have trouble between vette and viper. Solution = get both. Haha I love how people troll about the plastic thing. It has almost the same as any other car but I guess, what ever floats your boat. C7 won't be the best thing in the world, or that
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
The whole roof on the ZR1 one is made out of carbon fibre for god sakes and not to mention the coat to protect the carbon cost 50 grand per bucket.
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
@Zach Fibre glass and dude you sound dumb... Although the Corvette may not be exotic it's still a super car in my eyes. It has every aspect of a super car. Power, handling, plenty of carbon fibre, light, etc
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
Sports car because it dosent cost over 150,000 and has more plastic than a recycling plant, the viper is a sports car because it has an old v10, and no supercharger thrown onto it, a ton of people just judge cars by looks and price now
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
Ya Colby, that was pretty fanboyish, but as much as I hate to say it, people now and days classify sports cars and super cars by price now, the 911 in my eyes is just a sports car, but its expensive so it's a super car, the vette (zr1) is just a...
John Serely Sep 24, 2012
@daniel haha I laughed too when I read what Colby said. Every car in every aspect? Ha! Nice try Colby, but we all know your just a huge fanboy.
Tyler Tarbox Sep 24, 2012
I agree with Patrick in that I don't care about what the people who can't tell the difference think
Adam Beiersdorfer Sep 24, 2012
Even the worlds best Chocolate cake, however unbelievable it tastes and looks, will become boring when everyone orders it as well... That's why Exotics (Designed for Niche and not mainstream markets) will always be the strawberry others will choose.
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
Very good point, but that's what separates a gear head and an average Joe. I don't want to listen to anyones opinion who can't tell the difference anyways.
Daniel Eads Sep 24, 2012
"The C7 will rival every automobile in every aspect" Colby, thanks for the laugh.
William Downs Sep 24, 2012
Maybe so but I would buy a vette anyday before a viper I'm just a Chevy guy, viper is still in there just not #1 in my eyes
Tyler Tarbox Sep 24, 2012
@Adam. I see your point, but some people like to spend a lot of money on a car and not be flashy about it
Adam Beiersdorfer Sep 24, 2012
Supercars exotics are about extremes... There is no light version of a Viper, only hardcore and more hardcore... I'd wager the number of Handicapped plates on a Vette outnumber the total plates of a Viper...
Adam Beiersdorfer Sep 24, 2012
I'm going to say this once.. An exotic/supercar buyer does not want to sit at a light with a $50k version parked next that to an untrained eye is the same car, even if it is the definition of a Sports Car like a Vette...
William Downs Sep 24, 2012
Chevy needs to hurry the F up with the c7
Colby Church Sep 24, 2012
Hopefully when the C7 comes out with its new interior, exterior styling, performance statistics, and technology, some of the critics will shut their traps, seeing as the C7 should be nearly flawless and will rival every automobile in every aspect.
William Downs Sep 24, 2012
Cause the corvette and viper are bad ass American answers to the delicate exotics and stomp there ass for less money and are a lot more reliable
Colby Church Sep 24, 2012
If Chevrolet built a 1000 hp street Corvette, some idiots would still argue it's super car credibility. Everyone needs to stop taking jabs at the Corvette just because it's American and it beats all of its competitors for half the price in most cases
Colby Church Sep 24, 2012
The Z06 should be considered a super car, much less the ZR-1! The Z06 has 505 hp and weighs less than the all carbon fiber Porsche Carrera GT, which is a super car. How would 638 horsepower be considered a "sports car"?
David Jones-Richerson Sep 24, 2012
Mr. Shelby helped create the viper. Not so sure he would disagree. However, I would like to point out that the corvette is by technical standards America's first supercar.
Brian Johnston Sep 24, 2012
Well here's some. Ultimate aero, Saleen s7, ford gt, rossion q1, mossler mt900 all of which fit any super car criteria. And as for a cobra, the closest thing is the venom gt. it's a light weight British car that an American company but a big engine in
Dylan Bruder Sep 24, 2012
Mr.Shelby would disagree with you
Pagani Gtr Sep 25, 2012
Slap some yellow paint on there boom you look like you are driving a corvette
Thibault Leroy Sep 24, 2012
its the angle of the camera
Paul Lissona Sep 24, 2012
Me too with this color it's really good. Why does the driver side of the bumper have a bigger gap than the passenger side?
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Jamal Ayub Sep 24, 2012
From all the americans cars this is the best.
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Alex Renaud Sep 25, 2012
The Dodge/SRT Garter. That has a nice ring to it.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
Are talking about cars or snakes?
Dillon Magee Sep 24, 2012
They're elapids.
Dillon Magee Sep 24, 2012
Mambas aren't vipers.
Stephen Tyler Learn Sep 24, 2012
A mamba is a viper
Alex Long Oct 24, 2012
I'd pick the SRT Viper over any Lamborghini or Ferrari any day.
Lou Guerrero Sep 26, 2012
Damn it, I want one NOW. I don't want to wait till I'm 40 to own this.
Bobby Comment Sep 26, 2012
This car is way to bulky looking to be considered a super car. It looks like several other cars melded together with a bunch of aftermarket plastic. No offense to the fans but I just don't think this car brings anything special to the table.
Dale Fredriks Sep 26, 2012
I've just realized how identical the rear is to the Maserati Granturismo MC. And that is fantastic, since both cars are absolutely stunning.
Clay Williams Sep 25, 2012
I agree the 2nd Gen. And 4th Gen. Were quite good looking, and now this 5th one is even better looking.
Andre Vettorato Sep 24, 2012
Dont forget about Sergio, the Italian CEO of fiat that saved Chrysler from being bankrupt and gave permission for the new vipers to be made.. Also gave 3000 jobs to Americans and more on the way... Great car!
Shelby Cassandra Sep 24, 2012
Yeah. Too bad I live in Michigan; I would've loved to own a viper. Sadly it can't handle snow.
Drew Storrusten Sep 24, 2012
Personally I still love a viper in blue with white stripes.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
Patrick you literally just made me LOL.
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
Old Vipers are outdated looking, what a brilliant thing to say.
Shelby Cassandra Sep 24, 2012
I was so close to buying a 2008 viper last year! Part of me regrets it, but I had to buy a car that could handle Michigan winters.
Michele Moro Sep 24, 2012
Actually tought it was the old model at first glance, and thats a really really good thing
Colby Church Sep 24, 2012
Yellowwww! Oh yeaah! Here we go! Haha. Best color on exotics for sure. IMO of course... :)
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
I kind of liked the carbon fiber but still good without.
William Downs Sep 24, 2012
Live it without the carbon fiber on the back
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Tomas Arango Ferreira Sep 25, 2012
I love cars and i haven't bought the car i want because i won't live beyond my means just for a car. Does that make me love them less? I don't think so. But there are other things in life which are priorities. sorry, just my opinion
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
I'm surprised it's taken you this long to catch on Paul.
Devin Babyn Sep 24, 2012
You can still be a gear head without being hardcore. Just cause you love something doesn't mean you need to dedicate yourself to it. Many people have much more important things to take care of before a hobby. Oh and why don't you just get a better car if yours is a piece of shit breaking down all the time
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
That's what a gear-head is some one who loves cars more than anything.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
Well cars will always be the at the top of my interest list.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
You would never understand unless you truly loved cars.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
When your a gear-head the only thing that matters more than cars is the people you love. Not money.
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
And almost any original numbers matching muscle car. Generally I see those go for more than anything else on Mecum and Barrett Jackson.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
Well part of the reason I spend 60% on cars (including gas) is that I don't get payed a lot and my car breaks down all the time. But passion is the only thing stoping me from throwing it in a pit and taking a bus.
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
Cars can definitely be investments. And I'd rather enjoy them now while I'm young.
Kyle McCullough Sep 24, 2012
Hell yes they're a passion
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
Cars aren't an investment they're a passion.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
I'd say 60% of all the money I've ever spent was on cars and I'm ok with that.
Zachary Maurer Sep 24, 2012
I've spent all my money on die-cast and hotwheels because I'm not old enough to drive yet :D
Paul Lissona Sep 24, 2012
I've always spent like a ll my $ on cars.
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
Yeah amen to that crap!
Tyler Tarbox Sep 24, 2012
Not super rich, but you still got to be doin pretty well
Paul Dickey Sep 24, 2012
Last two sentences=awesome
Paul Lissona Sep 24, 2012
Because of the engine?
Rabi Noor Sep 24, 2012
I have Never wanted to own a car like i want to own the Viper and i will . For someone who knows enough in the cars world , the viper is the most car i wanna own !!
Description: The Viper is truly an enthusiast's car, a position it enjoys with the help of a relatively low price and an unfettered driving experience. It's not a car which will flatter the unskilled, bu...
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Jason W. Evers Sep 25, 2012
Or I just made all that up and it sounded good...
Jason W. Evers Sep 25, 2012
Instead of Dodge having to offset the mileage of the ram and viper with a ton of super mileaged cars or pay a really high fine to CAFE, now only Ram and SRT have to pay the CAFE fine and since they dont produce huge numbers, the fines are much smalle
Zeus Mocha Sep 25, 2012
Lol it's most likely not true. Fiat had an input in the go of the viper. Separating SRT probably brings more profit.
Luke Gordon Sep 25, 2012
Emil if this is true I'm sooooo glad they did.
Emil Creed Kleijsen Sep 25, 2012
@dhruv I think it has something to do with Chrysler not wanting fiat to have anything to do with the car, so they made a brand which fiat doesn't own, therefore it cannot have any interference with it
Dillon Magee Sep 24, 2012
I am so glad they didn't kill the viper.
Description: The new Viper has gotten more and more civilized over the years. It is now more forgiving to drive, even at high speeds. One might think that this isn't in the spirit that the car was originally ...
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Thomas Olmeda Oct 04, 2012
According to motortrend the new viper makes the zr1 feel old fashioned an crude. And the new viper is faster, higher quality, and more comfortable not to mention better handling. I think this should wrap up the argument.
Ross Vermillion Sep 24, 2012
Nothing's more American than the typical vette
Kyle Kloewer Sep 24, 2012
Same go as the ZR1
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
Haha well I hope that K State loss doesn't leave too much of a bitter taste in your mouth. Landry Jones gave them the game.
Keenan Casteel Sep 24, 2012
Oh, well, Boomer Sooner!
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
I graduated from Oklahoma State so definitely a Cowboy haha.
Keenan Casteel Sep 24, 2012
Well, the Z06 and the ZR1 have that covered. By the way, are you a Sooner or Cowboy fan?
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
And a good amount of power.
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
Because it's usually something retartedly ignorant, untrue, or something that everyone knows and some idiot just tries to point out again (the interior). We all know it's not on par with what some think it should be, that's been established by the
Keenan Casteel Sep 24, 2012
I get the history. That's what I like about the corvette; love the 67 Sting Ray. But I don't understand why guys act offended if somebody makes a negative comment regarding the corvette.
Patrick Schalk Sep 24, 2012
Keenan, look at the history and you will see. I don't know how anyone couldn't understand it?
Keenan Casteel Sep 24, 2012
It is America's supercar, but people will still defend the corvette to their dying breath. I honestly don't understand the affinity so many Americans have for the corvette.
Clay Williams Sep 24, 2012
If they went with a paddle shifter there would be riots in the street.
Jonathan Gomez Sep 24, 2012
So glad they kept the good old fashioned stick shift tran
Mark Pasillas Sep 24, 2012
America's supercar, just looking at the viper you know it holds that honorably
Blizzy B. Gazak Sep 24, 2012
the side exhaust is perfect for this cars personality
Noah Gavurin Sep 24, 2012
i love me some italian exotics and i've never liked american cars but, hot damn
Kyle Kloewer Sep 24, 2012
Wow a modern American engine where you can get to see it
Description: It combined just enough of all of the right elements to make it a huge success. What makes it even more special is that it sold far longer and far greater numbers than the Cobra ever did.
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Lou Guerrero Sep 26, 2012
To be fair the gen1 viper was pretty basic also but the only luxury item a cobra had was the price tag. So combined with the reasons you gave and the entree fee, I don't think it would outsell viper.
Bobby Comment Sep 26, 2012
Of course it outsold the cobra. The cobra was not built for public consumption, it was an actual race car. Designed, engineered and built to race and nothing in between. You couldn't walk into a dealership and order a cobra. Come on and compare apples to apples. If they put out a true, authentic, cobra it would put the viper out of business.
Dickson Lui Sep 27, 2012
Awesome love the red viper!!
Tyler Brady Sep 25, 2012
It's because the Italians are the ones that do the interiors. All the Chrysler lineup has nice interiors relative to a few years ago.
Miguel Jimenez Sep 24, 2012
I just want to live in there!
Rabi Noor Sep 24, 2012
The new Interior makes the viper Perfect Unlike any other. I "love" the Viper and will own it in the nearlly few years Inshallah..
Tyler Tarbox Sep 24, 2012
This and the CTS-V interiors are awesome
William Downs Sep 24, 2012
All American interiors are gonna look great now especially since all 3 company's are financially stable and making profit again
Noah Gavurin Sep 24, 2012
finally an american interior that doesnt look cheap
Paul Dickey Sep 24, 2012
Man I'm with you on that. My neighbor has two older vipers. Every night I dream that when I wake up the new srt viper is sitting in his driveway.
John Jenkins Sep 24, 2012
I would love to be able to step into that every day