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If he's doing a burnout from a stand still then that's probably why the flaps aren't up
Yeh the flaps work independently to adjust the weight on each wheel when cornering
Wrong David there not just an air brake, they move up and down to adjust down force on the individual corners of the car duh
Description: According to Cars UK, people present when the Huayra set its top time voiced their concerns that something seemed off. Since then gearheads on the TeamSpeed forum have claimed the tires on the superca...
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Ah but David they never said which road for all we know it could be the autobahn in Germany...
Carlos, will, y'all are right. This thing is set up great. Those flaps at speed are probably better than any kind of spoiler or other add on. Totally adjustable aerodynamics on the fly. The design is meant for handling prowess.
Just read the Jalopnik article, William. Must've been a sneaky switch up haha
They did use different tires for there lap, they already admitted it, but the car still would have topped the chart just not by as much, suspension is straight from the zonda R so it wasn't just the tires
At end the day they think its all about paper facts well what about engineering like Carlos has said about the flaps General passion too make the car the best they can they had passion too succeed and they did end of
Garreth, it is cheating cos to go on the lap times board the car has to be road legal
They may have rigged it not to win by that much but the time is down to the driver and there is no way to predict the stig
I doubt this is true for the simple reason that if they did cheat they wouldn't have won by such a large margin in order to not raise suspicions like it did. I believe the reason for the amazing time is the incredible engineering and those flaps
I love the Tricolore myself. But who can argue with having one of these in the garage
This shot was taken right before the Huayra starts to move, maning the tyres were still static. You can clearly see that the white Pirelli logo is missing: http://biser3a.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Pagani-Huayra-Top-Gear-1024x577.jpg
Besides tires this pic is awesome to showing ur car off it's soo cool how the hood n trunk n doors open up impressive
I think it would depend on shutter speed. Regardless, the picture would likely show the Pirelli logo, if it were there.
Maybe not a dot but you'll notice the pirelli name as a white ring when the tire is moving, notice how that's missing on the prev picture
This picture: car is parked Previous picture: car is racing You won't be able to see a white dot on a tire while the car is speeding.
Whole article on this. C'mon guys,you gotta take in account that its not always the car. It's the driver. Also check the weather conditions and all that. Also, yeah you may say on paper this is slower but top gear always compare cars with paper and the results never turn out as they're supposed to.
What's it doing now? Self cleaning? Self destructing? Yup self destruction to cover up all the cheating going on here! Really though, bring it back and test it again... The atom as well.
If you notice, the tyres on Huayra that lapped on the Top gear track didn't have the white marks on the sides, nor their profile is so round. Also, the tyres in that particular image are not Pirelli PZero Corsa. http://performance-tires.pmctire.com/media/catalog/product/cache/8/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/P/i/PirelliPzeroCorsa_51.jpg
Doesn't mean new one couldn't be bolted up before the lap, but I don't think they did
that doesnt mean that they couldnt have switched them before the lap, not saying they did but it wouldnt be that hard
They have to do warmup laps also duh. They dont only do a single lap in the car Noah. Thats how TV works.
ever heard of changing tires? i've done it on my car, and my parents cars, takes all of 30 minutes, tops
If I was that wealthy I would surely thrash it around. A cheap car isn't, at least to me, a car that is priced lower than another but one's that quality, design, performance, etc. is.
Don't Whiteknight, Colby
@Brittany. Yeah I find that annoying too. You and me both.
If I spent that much money on a pagani I'm pretty sure I could afford to take it out on a track. Most tracks have very strict passing rules anyways for anything other than a competitive race. So chances are you'll trash the car before another driver
Throw those tires on the Atom 500 , it could be easily 3 secs faster , then we'll will see how good that aero package is on the huayra. The advantage is Definitely Mechanical grip this car weights double and has half the power to weight ratio
@ashton it gets on my nerves when regular people act like they're rich. i was metaphorically speaking when taking about the bearings, so get over it.
Wheel bearing on a Lambo isn't what will get you. It's the oil change..
Those clever active aero bits were genius, they kinda mocked what Nissan did with the GTRs awd system, the gtr cont rolls grip by controlling the power to every wheel individually and changes it constantly, they just did it with down force, but the only flaw is pagani's system only works when your at the correct speed, gtr's awd is always working
Colby, glad she won for that reason instead of me lol.
I'm still convinced that even on the corsa tires it would have topped the chart, but I think it would have been down to fractions of a second instead of over a full second
And yes the huyara is more then track capable, the suspension is taken straight from the zonda R, witch pagani stated in there email was a developing platform more then a new model, plus when u throw active aero on top of the crazy grip the zonda R suspension gives this car its still wicked fast on the track, the tires just made it a lot faster
@edge, that wasn't a guess they were the words from pagan I to an editor at jalopnik, there is a full article on there as someone already stated, the tires used are the one designed for the zonda R and aren't road legal, but are an option for the huyara
Brittany still wins Ashton, sorry. She's cute, game over. Lol
Oh Brittany, I wish you had a sense of humor. At least go "haha" a bit. So serious. Haven't priced wheel bearings lately on the Porsche or Lambo but do me a favor and let me know what they cost, sort of curious. Too busy doing other stuff.
If the tires are road legal then the lap is still legit.
When I saw da Huayra's time , I was blown away,thought Aventor's or Mp4's time , but a further sec and abit faster than the 900bhp per ton atom?! Da Huayra weighs x2 & is 520bhp per tonne ,gotta be super sticker tires, not it's aero alone.
You could put this thing on square tires and still set a record lol, it's faster than the Atom in a straight line. It's more powerful, lighter, and handles better than the MP4-12C and Aventador. I don't see how it could be slower, personally.
cheap? ashton im willing to bet you cant afford a wheel bearing on a lambo. price doesnt matter when driving cars, its the way you feel driving it that counts.
The most important question. If you spend a million and some on the Pagani, would you take it to the track and thrash it around with cheap little Lambo's and Porsche's
Different tires make a big difference but I'm sure the Pagani would kick ass on the track anyway.
William you're almost right for the tires It's the same as the Lotus Exige S has got in option the Trofeo who are just more track focused but Still alloweded on road not like the Zonda R's tires ;)
Yup pagan I admitted to using 2 different sets of tires, the Pirelli Pzero Corsa were used for most of the driving but the lap time was set on pirelli P-Zero Trofeo, a tires designed for the zonda R. And something I didn't know is that the huyara has the sames suspension set up from the zonda R, I still believe it would have set the record but I don't think it would have been by so much
I just read on Jalopnik that Pagani used different tires for the track time.
Maybe the driver had a better run with the Huayra? Who cares it's a damn show nobody should take that into consideration when comparing the 2.
Well if Ailerons turn an airplane in the sky, imagine what it can do when applied to a car at speed. To my knowledge, no other street car before had ailerons. I think it is plausible.
Whatever. We don't look at top gear lap times when it comes to choosing supercars we like
I can't wait till all the haters give the huayra everything they want so it's not "cheating" anymore and it still beats all the other cars by such a big margin. Then everyone can shut up and respect pagani for the machine they created.
Truth is top gear is a comedy show, not a car show. Therefore forget all conclusions, results or verdicts, its just supposed to make you laugh. Thats it!
@Oscar, you have won the internet for the day
And it makes sense that the Huayra was the fastest of them all
Well Carbuzz is implying that the Aventador and MP4-12C set the same time as the Atom V8. The Huayra has just as much power, and more torque than the Aventador, and either weighs just as much or less than the MP4-12C. Add in the modern aerodynamics,
I wouldn't have a problem with slicks being used on the car... I would have an issue if they had other mods done
1120 m / 3674 ft ; 970 m / 3182 ft ; 730 m / 2395 ft ; 480 m / 1574 ft
@Mark Fei Ling Actually, the Dunsfold track where "Top gear" uses to race the cars is one of the fastest tracks on the planet. It has 4 very long straigh lines, one long turn and just few short turns to connect them. Here is how long are the 4 straight lines (measured in meters / foot respectively): 1120 m / 3674 ft 970 m / 3182 ft 730 m / 2395 ft 480 m / 1574 ft
Cheat'ns winning too.
The atom is too light, and top gear lap is not high speed track. When there is not much air down force, atom will suffer weak braking. Pagani is overall balanced car, also right for the top gear track.
I don't think people realize how capable the Huayra is. It is built by the same company that made the Zonda R! The Huayra also has the active aero which keeps it planted at all times. I think the lap is legit, and the people that had so much extra time on their hands to complain about it should get a life.
It's not like Pagani could have bribesd one of the most powerful and wealthy TV companies (BBC) in the world.
Lmao @ Oscar
Who cares as long as it's fast and sexy?!
For me saying that Pagani cheated is just fucking stupid it's people who are haters and It's saying that the Pagani Zonda R cheated too
The atom v8 is faster than the pagani the atom is lighter faster and handles better they should get tiff needel back to race them both
the car is so good looking i could hardly care. but its unfortunate if true
Honestly, I was shocked that it beat the Atom V8 by that amount. It never crossed my mind that they cheated, but then again I know Mr.Pagani himself usually is present at top gear with the car and cares very much about setting a top time.
Alex your crazy but I respect your opinion. Who cares if it made the record or not. There are some really nice cars that go on there. I just want to see what happens. It would be funny to see.
Lol @oscar!
Incase no one knows this Alex is legally blind and typed this using braille
Hate pagani in general. Their both this and the zonda are ugly as hell
Never could such a car beat the Atom V8... the Aventador, the MP4, but not the Atom...
This is just a bunch of fanboys for those other cars getting all butthurt cuz the Huayra is an epic machine and those other cars can't even begin to keep up. This coming from someone who still prefers the Zonda.
Just because something is quicker in a straight line doesnt mean its quicker around corners. The pagani is light. The aventador is not. And the ariel was gonna be beat someday. They huayra is the car to do it.